It’s episode 24 and the guys are talking with the legendary Byron Katie. Katie is the founder of the Work, a simple process of inquiry for alleviating suffering and gaining joy and freedom. Chris and Shaun talk with Katie about her transformation, the impact the Work has had on millions over the last 40 years, and Katie “Works” through a very personal situation.

You can learn more about Katie here.

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